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		<title>Confirmation of my doubts about ExtJS licensing</title>
		<link>http://fabrizioballiano.net/2008/03/18/confirmation-of-my-doubts-about-extjs-licensing/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 09:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Fabrizio Balliano</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Javascript]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Extjs]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[ExtJs is a great javascript development library, some time ago I did some tests to port P4A to ExtJs and I wrote a post with my considerations about it and other javascript libraries. In that post I wrote: ExtJs as really a killer graphic layout, and it’s released under LGPL3 (developers wrote some licensing notes [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://extjs.com">ExtJs</a> is a great javascript development library, some time ago I did some tests to port <a href="http://p4a.sf.net">P4A</a> to ExtJs and I wrote a post with <a href="/2007/12/05/p4a-3-rendering-layer-discussion/">my considerations about it and other javascript libraries</a>.</p>
<p>In that post I wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>ExtJs as really a killer graphic layout, and it’s released under LGPL3 (developers wrote some licensing notes that I can’t really understand… actually I think that those notes could conflict with LGPL3 itself)</p></blockquote>
<p>Today I found a post by <a href="http://www.cnet.com/8300-13505_1-16.html?authorId=9728254">Matt Asay</a> called &#8220;<a href="http://www.cnet.com/8301-13505_1-9878693-16.html">ExtJs: When open source is not open at all</a>&#8220;.</p>
<p>A quote from that post:</p>
<blockquote><p>It&#8217;s a bit like saying, &#8220;You can use this as open source so long as you use the software how we&#8217;d like you to use it. If you have any money, forget open source: pay us instead.&#8221;</p>
<p>So how is this open source? This is a wholesale rejection of the Open Source Definition (#6).</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s a confirmation of my doubts about ExtJs licensing and a confirmation that we took the right choice not to use it for P4A at the moment.</p>
<p>Now, I always try to be constructive also when writing critics about a project so here there are some suggestions for the ExtJs team:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>clarify your licensing model</strong>, choose LGPL3 (or AGPL3 or whatever) definitively and remove your own notes (this will make ExtJs grow both within the final users market and the server-side market)</li>
<li><strong>open your SVN</strong>, it&#8217;s ugly for FLOSS developers not to be able to follow the development</li>
<li><strong>listen to user requests</strong>, when I wrote in the forums that there was <a href="http://extjs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19569">no way to get a field&#8217;s label displayed if the field is not inside a form panel</a>, the only answer I got (not from the team which didn&#8217;t answer at all, but from a premium member) was &#8220;buy a license and ask for that feature&#8221; [...]</li>
<li><strong>think general purpose</strong> because not all the users want to build all the application from javascript, ExtJs could do fireworks if it could be better combined with server-side frameworks</li>
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		<title>Affero GNU Public License is now OSI approved</title>
		<link>http://fabrizioballiano.net/2008/03/14/affero-gnu-public-license-is-now-osi-approved/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Fabrizio Balliano</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yesterday Russ Nelson wrote in the OSI licence-review mailing list that finally the AGPL 3 was approved! You can already see it in the OSI approved licenses page. I think AGPL3 is really important for web applications and I&#8217;m really happy that OSI made AGPL official. Now I hope that more FLOSS projects will use [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday Russ Nelson wrote in the <a href="http://www.crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?17">OSI licence-review mailing list</a> that finally the AGPL 3 was approved!</p>
<p>You can already see it in the <a href="http://www.opensource.org/licenses/alphabetical">OSI approved licenses</a> page.</p>
<p>I think AGPL3 is really important for web applications and I&#8217;m really happy that OSI made AGPL official. Now I hope that more FLOSS projects will use it.</p>
<p>PS: This post is a sort of answer to <a href="http://fabrizioballiano.net/2008/02/27/magento-license-could-be-a-serious-trouble/">post about Magento&#8217;s license</a> where Roy Rubin (CEO of Varien) told me that AGPL wasn&#8217;t OSI approved (it was true in that moment, but now it isn&#8217;t anymore). Hey I don&#8217;t want to reopen the licenses war of that post, this note is just to join the arguments :-)</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE: </strong> <a href="http://www.cnet.com/8300-13505_1-16.html?authorId=9728254">Matt Asay</a> says that <a href="http://www.cnet.com/8301-13505_1-9894155-16.html">AGPL is a cure for the cancer within open source</a>. I agree.</p>



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